A former pastor who has interviewed over a thousand people that ‘came back from the dead’ describes how many of them were shown Heaven and Hell, and offered a choice

A former Christian pastor who has studied over 1,000 reports of near-death experiences is convinced Hell is real after people told him they encounterd “demons” in the afterlife.

Bestselling author John Burke told podcaster Shawn Ryan that, even as a Christian, hearing these stories has changed his views on life after death.

He said he now takes the Bible more literally. “Studying this has actually changed my theology – even as a Christian and even as a pastor,” John explained. “I used to think a lot of it was just fantastical or metaphorical, but hearing enough of these people saying the things they say, what I’ve come to is that on the good side all of our wildest dreams and fantasies and fiction and the the things we only dream of that might be possible [Heaven is] better than that.

“And the horror that we can imagine and see and come up with – [Hell is] worse than that. And both are based in a reality that’s beyond this life.” A huge number of people that John has spoken to claim to have been shown both heaven and Hell, before being offered an opportunity to repent their sins.

He continued: “They get both a heavenly and a hellish experience, and I find that those who cry out to God for forgiveness at the last minute – it’s almost like he lets them see where they were headed before rescuing them.”

He told the story of a pal named Jim Woodford who accidentally took an overdose of painkillers he had been prescribed as a result of suffering the very painful Guillain-Barré syndrome.

John said: “He said to me ‘You know when you’re dying, I felt it coming up like this fire coming up through me,’ and he had this realisation ‘I’ve never thanked God for the life I thought was my own making.’ I have heard enough of these to realise that you know you don’t want to wait until the last minute, but God is pursuing people to the last minute.” Jim reported passing through the “tunnel of light” that is common to many accounts of near-death experiences. The paster continued: “He is going through this tunnel of light and then he comes out … but then he sees this beauty on the right but then it’s almost he said there was almost almost like a line of delineation and then got more and more grey and black and then a black charcoal crevasse that just dropped off into nothingness.

“Out of curiosity he starts to go over there, to see what it is, and he said ‘imagine looking down into the the darkest black valley you can imagine but but darker than that’.

“Then he saw a tiny pinpoint of light, almost like a campfire in the distance, and he hears something open up and he sees this creature come out of it and that creature comes for him and knows his name and and he realises that it wanted to claim him.” John would have been tempted to write his friend’s story off as a drug-induced hallucination – if he hadn’t heard dozens of similar stories from many different people from many different cultures. He continued: “If I were listening to this as my skeptical self I’d say ‘Oh this is make believe and when Jim told it to me that’s what I was thinking. If I hadn’t heard enough of them uh but I think there’s a reality to it.”

He is now convinced that the supernatural beings described in the Old Testament are real, and live in a dimension beyond our understanding. “There are there are species that God created beyond humanity that are not bound by time and space like we are, exist in dimensionalities beyond ours,” John added.

These fallen angels are so unlike any creature that we know that we lack the words to describe them. “The Bible tells us that God created another species called the Angelic species just like we’re a species and dogs are a species and cats are a species there are angels and there are subspecies or other species within that,” he explained. “There are seraphim, there are cherubim, they don’t look like humans with wings – they look otherworldly and I’ve had near-death experiencers describe them to me – creatures with eyes all over them.”

He said in the afterlife we will encounter lifeforms “beyond what we can know and see and imagine.”

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